Wilcox County Chat Log - Aug 17, 2000

The topic is: Wilcox County

[owoodson] Wonder if anyone else will join us.

[nkayeal] maybe so

[owoodson] I am a Woods descendant, but mine are from Bibb Co.

[owoodson] Hello, BJ

BJS> Hi all

[nkayeal] I am a Wood decendant, but I really have no clue where they are - originally from

BJS> Trying to set up log so excuse me for a sec

[nkayeal] Hi BJ

[nkayeal] My 2great grandmother was a Wood and is buried in Lowndes Co., but - right on the Wilcox co. line

BJS> OK

[nkayeal] welcome back

[owoodson] BJ, have you checked on the plat book again?

BJS> No. Have you?

[owoodson] No, I haven't.

BJS> I'm out of town but do you want me to ask?

[nkayeal] BJ, are you familiar with any CHANCE'S in Wilcox co. the would probably mostly been over close to - the Lowndes CO. line, some were in Wilcox, Dallas and Lowndes counties

[owoodson] Not in particular, I just haven't done so again, but it might help if we both ask about the same - time.

BJS> No, offhand not familiar with the Chance name.

[owoodson] Wasn't there a Nathan Chance in the Farmersville area

[owoodson] I may have the name wrong, but I know that I have read the name and seen somethings about the - Chances.

[nkayeal] yes, he was my 3rd great grandfather. I am trying to find out who his siblings were

[owoodson] Did other members of his family come to thatr area. I am thinking that I remember he was one of - the pioneers of that area.

[nkayeal] yes, i think he was, but i really don't know alot about him, can you tell me more?

[owoodson] Not really, I remember the name and his location and I would have to think a while to see if I - remember anything else. It seems like I have something in some file, but not sure what or where.

BJS> I just sent out a message to join us inthe chat right now. Maybe we'll get a few more people.

[nkayeal] he and several of his cildren are buried at Cedar Creek Cemetery, which is right on the wilcox co - line

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[nkayeal] children (sp)

BJS> Hello langham

[nkayeal] hi

[owoodson] hello

[langham] Hi all, what time does it start

[nkayeal] 8

[langham] this is it?

BJS> So far. It's always hard to pick a good time for 4 time zones.

[nkayeal] hopefully more will come soon

[langham] looking for Langham and Bruce in Wilcox County about 1850 to 1880

[langham] also have Rev. James Thompson and his family. Most of them are buried at Old Society Hill

[owoodson] I am familiar with Rev. Thompson.

[langham] Really, tell me

[owoodson] He was the builder of the first Wilcox courthouse at Barboursville.

[langham] I have not heard that please tell more

[owoodson] Also built several of the other early buildings in Barbourville or Camden. And he was involved in - the establishment of the Methodist Church in Camden

[langham] I knew he was a Methodist minister but not the other

[langham] He was my ggg grandfather

[owoodson] I found the documents concerning the building of the first courthouse 1833-34.

[langham] I had heard he had some money don't know how but had two homes one in Wilcox and one in Dallas - County

[langham] where do I find these documents

[owoodson] I am wrong I did not find the documents for the building, but the Commision minutes give him as the - builder and payment of $1495.00 was approved as payment to him by the County Commission. This was from the - County Commission minutes.

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BJS> Hey, ileman

[nkayeal] hi ileman

[ileman] hello

BJS> Small "crowd" tonite but just jump right in.

[owoodson] This courthouse was a two story frame building with two columns in front.

[langham] My great aunt said once she was in Wilcox County about 1950 or so and said she found the house, of - course couldn't say where it was

[owoodson] I am not sure which house would have been his.

[langham] said he had a lot of land

[langham] I was told that Rev. Thompson had sons that was a dentist and lawyer in Camden

[langham] His daughter Anne Catherine Thompson married Charlie Langham

[owoodson] I think he did own a rather large acreage. There was a Benjamin Thompson who was a dentist and a - Joseph Thompson who was a lawyer.

[langham] That would be them

[owoodson] Benjamin Thompson's home still stands in Camden. It has been changed architectually, but is still - here.

[langham] Is there a picture on-line of it? That would be the brother of my gg grandmother

[owoodson] I found an advertisement for his dental practice which gave the location of this home and office - and then have a post card of the Masonic Lodge which shows the house in the background before it was changed.

[owoodson] I am not sure if it is one of those on line.

[langham] how would I get a copy that?

[nkayeal] goodnight all, owoodson, if one day you find your info on Nathan would you let me know?

[owoodson] A copy of what?

[langham] the location of his home to be able to find a picture

[owoodson] Yes, if I know your email address to let you know.

[langham] Cmcne83604@AOL.com

[nkayeal] williamson@alaweb.com

[owoodson] I can send you a transcribed copy of the dentist office ad.

[nkayeal] bj, thanks for the opportunity to chat

BJS> niters

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[langham] I would much appreciate that. I went to Camden many years ago and but had no luck.

[owoodson] I will send it.

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[langham] I had heard he was very wealthy until after the war and lost it all. he does not even have a stone - on his grave

[langham] His wife and children have large stones

BJS> Any suggestions for the next chat? A theme?

[owoodson] I don't remember the date of his death now.

[langham] He died before the war but someone didn't seem to find the need to put a stone on his grave

[langham] His sons didn't keep up the farm for their stepmother I guess

[owoodson] After the War nobody had the money to put many stones. Also it was hard to get them here.

[owoodson] What seems to be the items most people are interested in knowing about Wilcox, BJ?

[langham] He had a son that he called "unfortunate" so not sure if he was mentally disabled or what

BJS> Get a lot of Civil War questions, of course.

BJS> Foks also want to know where so and so went between 1860-1870.

[langham] Charles langham was said to have joined the Civil war from Wilcox but found no record on him

[owoodson] You mentioned a theme for the chats, if we could figure out what kinds of things people are most - interested in records, buildings, happenings, then the chats could center around such topics.

[langham] I think this is great. This is the first time I realized there was a chat

BJS> We could start with land records or early settlers.

BJS> Most newbies don't know what to ask, so they ask about everything. We could help them focus.

[owoodson] Yes the migration times are interesting to people. Early settlers would be interesting.

BJS> langham, the first few chats had about 15 people. Very active. This is slow tonite.

BJS> Do you want to try that next time?

[owoodson] Were your Langhams from east wilcox?

[langham] I wish I had known about the others. May not have been in town, but will come back again

[langham] Camden I believe

[langham] Buried at Old Society Hill.

[langham] My Charles Langham left and went to E. Carroll Parish, LA

[langham] about 1872

[langham] My Dantzler line left Noxubee county, MS and ended up in e. Carroll Parish too

[owoodson] That is fine with me. I have been considering volunteering to host or what ever you call it. I - don't want to seem pushy and I am certainly no expert, but I do enjoy sharing what I know.

BJS> That would be great!

[langham] y'all do a great joy

[langham] yob

[owoodson] There were Langhams in the Pine Apple area later, I think.

[langham] job, my typing is not so good

BJS> You know more about the county as a whole than anyone.

[langham] Yes that was his brother

[langham] John Lowery Langham

BJS> Is Thrs a good night for you?

[langham] and Amanda Langham Colemant

[owoodson] Yes Thursday is really the best.

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[owoodson] Also, we can go an hour earlier, if that would work better.

BJS> You mean 7 CDT?

[langham] 8 is easier for me as I have dinner out of the way but you guys are the host

[owoodson] Yes

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[Clifford] I am glad that we are having the chat tonight, I wondered if we would not have it at all, I can - have it any time.

BJS> We could try it but remember that's 5pm out west.

[Lee] Oh I'm so mad. I forgot the chat

[owoodson] Really the time is not a problem for me--what ever is best for the most people-or I can be here for - longer.

[Clifford] owoodson, please not that my new e-mail address is clmorgan@pjc.cc.fl.us

BJS> How long is good? I hour or 2?

[Lee] what's the conversation?

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[Clifford] BJS two is fine with me

[owoodson] two hours is fine

[langham] Clifford my maiden name was C.L. Morgan

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[Lee] Hello

[Clifford] BJS do you know when the wilcox heritage book is out??

BJS> Hi Folks. Latecomers, eh?

[mdianne] Hi everybody, just found the e-mail about the chat session

[lscurry] Hi all, almost forgot. Is it soon over?

[Clifford] Langham, very interesting I have connections to the Wilcox Co., Alabama Morgan line through my - Jones in Butler Co., Alabama

BJS> Clifford, I don't. Have you contacted the committee?

[owoodson] The book should be out by the fall.

[Lee] does anyone know the Crains who were in Wilcox in the 1830s?

[Clifford] BJS, I have not talked to them lately.

[langham] I am not sure my Morgan line, my father died at an early age, couldn't get his line far back

[owoodson] I talked to Bettye Morgan about it last week and everything is going well.

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[Clifford] owoodson, have you talked to max and mary ann jones lately??

[langham] I would have like to see langham and Thompson in it but found out too late

[Lee] Are ther any census on the web for Wilcox before 1850?

[Clifford] Lee, no.

BJS> The 1820 is online

[Lee] How can I find out about my Crains?

[Lee] BJ On Wilcox?

[Clifford] Lee can you give me a name I can check out the census records in Pensacola, FL for you.

BJS> Yep!

[Lee] I'm going to Pensa Oct

[mdianne] I have found some counties list the cemeteries and some of the people that are buried there

[owoodson] Do you which part of the county your Crains were in.

[mdianne] does Wilcox county have anything like that

[Lee] Clifford Harvey Crain/Crane

[Lee] Don't know what part of Wilcox

BJS> mdianne, yes, we have a very active group of transcribers.

[langham] One of my Langhams Olivia married a William Redden Browne and moved to Pensacola FL

[Lee] It only say Wilcox on Pension

[owoodson] Did he patent land here

[Lee] Don't know

[Clifford] Lee, we have all the census from 1820-1880, 1900-1920 in Pensacola, Florida make sure you bring - nickels because our machines do also take dime if you get the new machines.

[owoodson] What type of pension?

[Lee] I know about nockles

[Lee] inickles

[Lee] nickles

[Clifford] lee nickels

[langham] Lee you are as bad as I am on typing

[Lee] A11506

[Clifford] Lee, I am also

[Lee] Civil War Pension

[langham] I also have Curry and Topps in Wilcox anyone know of them

[Clifford] owoodson, have you found anymore about the jones family?

[Lee] It says he was married to Florida (Lehone) but her last name was CHANCE

[Lee] What JONES?

[owoodson] Where was he living when he drew the pension.

[Lee] I have them too

[Lee] Santa Rosa

[langham] also Armstrong, Hawthorne, Means, Gould and Robbins

[Lee] FL

[Clifford] Lee, JOseph Bethel Jones of Wilcox Co., Alabama

[Lee] I think I know him

[owoodson] No, but I did locate the record I have that gives John McLean as the husband of Elizabeth Jenkins - Jones Mclean.

[Clifford] Lee do you any information on his family?

[Lee] I've been so busy with CHANCE and CRAIN I haven't had time for JONES

[Clifford] Owoodson, thanks I need that.

[Lee] Clifford maie me rubylionb@aol.com

[Lee] mail

[owoodson] Will send you a copy.

[langham] What brought people to wilcox in the 1840's or after

[Lee] Are there Wilcox census in Pensa?

[owoodson] Lee is your family the Bethel JOnes family of that of the Rev,. Capers who was at Furman

[Clifford] Lee, yes

[Lee] Maybe I'm thinking of Bethel Simmons

[langham] Several Langhams left Sumtner to go to Wilcox

[Lee] Clifford are you the one I bought all those nickels from?

[Lee] Are you at Pensa Library?

[owoodson] I meant to write the Rev. Capers Jones of Furman

[Clifford] Lee, no it may have been harold Bonifay on of our member's

[Clifford] Lee, no I am not but I can check the information tommorrow if I know what line to look for.

[langham] Clifford to you know of any Brownes of Pena FL he was said Captian in the civil war, William redden - browne

[langham] said to be related to the Cato family is some way

[Clifford] langham, I do not but I can check it out with our society.

[Lee] I really like that library but there're closed on Sun and Mon

[owoodson] Clifford did you get the Awin cemetery list?

[langham] They married in wilcox county and then moved to FL and lived in Pensacola. cant find much on him

[Clifford] owoodson, yes I did thanks for sending both of them for me.

[Lee] Will be leaving NORTH Idaho in Oct for Pensa to research and winter over

[langham] not good winters in Idaho?

[Clifford] owoodson, did anyone do anymore books on Wilcox Co., Alabama?

[Lee] There's a CHANCE reunion in Oct if anyone is interested

[owoodson] Not yet that I know of.

[Lee] Writers?

[owoodson] The heritage book is the main one right now people are waiting on.

[Lee] There's a JONES reunion in April

[owoodson] I am thinking seriously about doing a couple more of mine within the next few months.

[Lee] Winters are great in Idaho but it's time to go

[Clifford] BJS, I need to have my e-mail changed on the Futch line to clmorgan@pjc.cc.fl.us

[langham] when I was in Camden several years ago, they told me that did have much documented or written on the - county

BJS> OK, will do.

[Lee] what are some of the surnames out there?

[langham] didn't have

[langham] I was hard to find anyone that could help me

[Clifford] I am researching the Futch, JOnes, Jenkins, Simpkins, Waite, Chappell, Boutwell, Sadler, and many - more including Owens, woodson

[Lee] mine are CHANCE, CRAIN, HURST, MORRISON, JONES CHESTNUT

[Lee] Which JONES?

[Lee] from Pike CoAL?

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[langham] LANGHAM, DANTZLER, HAWTHORNE[owoodson] Which Armstrong family?

[langham] lewis Langham marreid Susan Aarmstrong in 1836 in Wilcox county

[langham] She died in 1839 they had one child Francis Langham

[owoodson] She probably was an Armstrong from the Oak Hill area. The Armstrongs were about the first settlers - there.

[Clifford] Lee, my Jones are in Wilcox, Co., Alabama with JOseph Bethel Jones and Eleander simpkins

[Lee] gotta go - it was fun- hope we can set this up again---I have a Joseph JONES

[Lee] My Jonses lived mostly in Springhill , Pike AL

[Lee] I have a Joseph father of Seaborn, father of William A. JONES

[Clifford] owoodson, has the Wilcox Society anymore book from the heritage book company?

[Clifford] Lee, I am connected to that line?

[Lee] Are you now?

[owoodson] BJ, I am going to have to go. Have a phone call from one of my children. Let me know what times - and what topic, etc.

[owoodson] Clifford what books do you mean?

[langham] nite all I need to go too. Gotta take the dogs out for a walk. Would like to do this again

[Clifford] Lee, If you are refering to Elbert Jones of Butler Co., Alabama before and after in Butler Co., - Alabama

[langham] Is there a set time for the next one?

[Clifford] owoodson, the other heritage books on Alabama Counties.

[owoodson] Yes, they ahve some copies that were given to the Library.

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[Lee] E-mail me at rubylionb@aol.com gotta go hubby wants the phone---No Pike I think have to look at my - book== e-mail me

[langham] when is the next chat

BJS> OK, Ouida.

[Clifford] mikok, who are you researching?

[Lee] by

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[owoodson] Good night.

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[mikok] mikok researchin Crum abd Dumas

BJS> Folks, this was supposed to go to 9 CDT tonite.

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BJS> We will have another one next week so I'm going to close this session now.

BJS> Made a transcript and will post it.

[Clifford] BJS, thanks for having it.

BJS> You're welcome. See you next week.

[Clifford] mikok, who are you researching?

[Lee] by

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[owoodson] Good night.

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[mikok] mikok researchin Crum abd Dumas

BJS> Folks, this was supposed to go to 9 CDT tonite.

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BJS> We will have another one next week so I'm going to close this session now.

BJS> Made a transcript and will post it.

[Clifford] BJS, thanks for having it.

BJS> You're welcome. See you next week.

[Clifford] mikok, who are you researching?

[mikok] cu next time mikok Crum and Dumas mikok

[Clifford] I am leaving.

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BJS> niters

[mikok] me too

BJS> nite

BJS> Closing the log now

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