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The topic is: Wilcox County
[nkayeal] Well several lines, but particularly the WOOD'S & CH
[LSCurry] I'm searching EVANS, SCOTT, RATCLIFFE, and MANDEVILLE in Wilcox - before about 1850
[owoodson] Yes clc
[owoodson] Yes clc
[nkayeal] CHANCE families they lived in Wilcox, Lowndes & Dallas counties
[Clifford] owoodson, did not think that the jenkins & Mclean had to appear - in court.
[clc] About a year ago I went researching at the Monroe County Courthouse
[Clifford] clc, how is the information at the monroe Courthouse?
[clc] All the marriage records were laminated
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[clc] After a short period of time I went to the Wilcox County Courthouse
[Clifford] bjs, where you able to put those webpages on the wilcox Co., - webpage?
[clc] The pages are shortly getting torn and weathered
[LSCurry] what are the cemetery resources for Wilcox? Looking for old family - cemeteries
[clc] Why can't a group of people get together and perserve our Wilcox - county heritage and preserve the pages here the same way???!!
BJS> Clifford, not yet but will update this weekend
[Clifford] clc, I am trying to locate my Richard "Dick" Futch parents who - maybe in monroe Co., Alabama
[JEMANUEL] Good suggestion clc
[owoodson] There are listings of many of them in the Library and a good many - are online, LSCurry
[Clifford] bjs, just asking. I really enjoy the information that you have - placed on line.
[clc] Would be willing to contribute my time and get a machine and blank - pages to do this task
[LSCurry] Ouida, are there people at the library that can do research, make - copies, etc
[owoodson] About the marriage records in the courthouse, the county has had - some of the books rebound. hopefully they will do more.
[owoodson] There is really no one at the Library to do research. We just - don't have the staff.
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[GIGI] The marriage records at Wilcox County Court house are in good - condition
[Clifford] owoodson, do you know if anymore jones or Jenkins, McLean - information in those files that you sent me?
[LSCurry] Are there death records for the 1840s? I need to find if there is - a church affiliation for my EVANSes, and if there are records for those - churches.
[Clifford] waf6718, hi who are you researching?
[clc] GIGI Did you look at the actual records or the listing in the - library??
[omstar99] Type HERE Is the Camden library open on Sat. and if so do you - know the hours?
[GIGI] Actual records
[owoodson] The church records in Wilcox are very scant. Just a few scattered - here and there. There aren't any death records for the 1840s.
[clc] The last time I looked, they needed attention to preserve them
[owoodson] No the library is not open on Sat.
[waf6718] Type HEREHi Thank for noticing me. 1st time here. Searching - Moorer surname
[LSCurry] The church records...would some be in the library, or with the - individual denominations?
[owoodson] Some of the books are in bad shape. One especially. I hope the - county will fix it next.
[clc] Lamination would be the answer to preserve what is left
[owoodson] There are probably a few church records people have donated in - file folders. Which denomination?
[LSCurry] Excuse me, NOT lamination, encapsulation, in mylar
[clc] Ouida, if we wait for the county to fix, then we'll wait til the "cows - come home"
[nkayeal] waf6718... DO any of the MOORER'S that you research tie into - either GOODWIN'S or CHANCE families by chance?
[owoodson] I know, but they have fixed a few and they tell me more will be - done.
[LSCurry] encapsulation, after de-acidification. Is there a state archives - that will handle the documents?
[clc] encapsulation, lamination, whatever it takes to preserve
[owoodson] The Archives is involved in the project to microfilm the loose - probate records and the records from the top floor of the old jail. Nothing - more that I know of.
[clc] for a price i'm sure but who can foot this type of preservation?
[ileman] bbl
[waf6718] Nk pls bear with me. 1st time for this novice in this type of - forum.
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[LSCurry] encapsulation is reversible, doesn't alter the documents, - lamination does.
[owoodson] The county government should take care of the records.
[nkayeal] no problem, only my 2nd time
[Clifford] clc, your right about the county waiting & waiting for ever. I - wished that our library in Pensacola, FL would do something before we loose - information.
[clc] I'm saying anthing for a short cure not letting them rot
[waf6718] Most of my MOORER's are from Lowndes, Farmersville, Hickory Hill - Pct and Fort Deposit
[LSCurry] I don't know about other states, but htere seems to be a war - between the state archives and individual counties in KY
[LSCurry] Unfortunately the wonderful material sometimes falls betweent he - cracks
[waf6718] but I know many more are /were from Wilcox county
[Clifford] Why does not the LDS micro film the records?
[clc] Monroe County had them laminated, and granted it is not a long time - cure but for many years will protect the originals til someone can either - microfilm them or "encapsulate" them
[owoodson] The LDS has microfilmed a lot of our records.
[nkayeal] Farmersville, is where I think most of my decendants are going to - be from, but alot of business went through Wilcox county, because it is - right on the line so though they all lived near each other some lived in - one county and some in another.
[owoodson] Lamination prevents any other preservation the way I understand - it?
[clc] Ouida, can you retrieve what they microfilmed without paying a fee??
[LSCurry] nkayeal, where is Farmerville?
[Clifford] clc, not that I know of.
[owoodson] YOu mean the LDS, I really don't know. I doubt it though.
[nkayeal] Does the name Mary Jerusha Chance sound familar?
[waf6718] nk.I just invested in the HeritageQuest CD's 1870-1920 for Ala I am in 7th heaven
[nkayeal] Farmersville is actually in Lowndes CO. right on the Wilcox county line
[nkayeal] what all information does it have?
[owoodson] The Historical Society here had the deed records microfilmed by them several years ago. We paid - for the service and got one roll of film for each they did. These are stored in one of the bank vaults.
[Clifford] clc, I have order several film that has helped me.
[waf6718] Within walking distance in some cases
[omstar99] You may order film from the LDS through your nearest LDS History Center for a very reasonable - fee. This is to be view at the center.
[LSCurry] I need a good Alabama history source. Have lots of lines that came through Alabama, but don't have - a grasp of its development. Any suggestions?
[JEMANUEL] clc I don't know about other places, but the fee is very nominal in Mobile
[clc] All, My point is this --the records of all individuals at the Wilcox County Courthouse is the original - records and there seems to be a need to preserve these records for our future generations at no cost to them - and still in one piece!!
[Clifford] clc, the LDS charges $3.25 plus 0.25 for shipping for a film and maybe 0.25 for copies
[waf6718] nk: It's is the actual census records on CD.
[Clifford] LsCurry, which lines are you researching?
[nkayeal] oh, you are kidding. All counties or is it just particular counties?
[LSCurry] EVANS, RATCLIFFE, SCOTT, MANDEVILLE
[owoodson] LSCurry check the website Bibliofind.com for older books on history of AL. There is an old - fourthgrade history book that is great. I have two copies one that was my fathers in school and one that I - bought from a used book store.
[clc] clifford that's what i figured-- still a cost involved--Wilcox County should have charged them for - being able to retrieve the info if they were to charge something for it!!
[LSCurry] Ouida, what is the name of the old text?
[waf6718] nk aLL Counties . For the whole US
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[Clifford] one_girl, hi who are you researching?
[owoodson] History of Alabama by William Garrott Brown. There is also the History of Alabama by Pickett that - is good.
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[nkayeal] owoodson... where you ever able to locate the information you - thought you had on Nathan CHANCE?CC
[clc] Hello Bj
[owoodson] I haven't found it yet.
BJS> Hey
[waf6718] This is fun, tho. If I get the hang of reading, and typing.
[LSCurry] This may have come up before...but when is the Wilcox Heritage - book coming out?
[owoodson] It is going to be Dec.
[Clifford] lsCurry, maybe out in December
[LSCurry] great Christmas present for me
[owoodson] It should be a good book, for all that I hear of it.
[waf6718] Hi BJ. Getting very close to Dr. John Wesley Moorer.
[LSCurry] Can it be ordered now? I'm really poor in Dec.
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[owoodson] Yes, it can be ordered now.
[LSCurry] I'll check the list for an address.
[owoodson] I checked last week for someone and it is Heritage Book, PO Box - 308, Camden, AL 36726
[LSCurry] Thanks
[Clifford] owoodson, have you found anymore information on Rebecca JOnes?
[owoodson] No, I haven't Clifford
[Clifford] owoodson, do you have anymore on bethel joseph jones line?
[clc] Ouida , Since I'll stop ranting about preserving the heritage of the - Wilcox County Courthouse records, do you have anything on the Tarvers of - Wilcox County around 1850-1860/
[LSCurry] Night folks. Gotta go.
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[owoodson] I have the narrative that I wrote about the family.
[nkayeal] Does anyone have any information on the family of Obediah WOOD?
[owoodson] Tarver sounds familiar, but I will ahve to think about it.
[clc] Ouida, would love to have that information--Is it in one of you books?
[owoodson] Which information , on the Bethel Jones, if so, it is not in a - book at this time.
[JEMANUEL] Enjoyed listening - see you soon.
[owoodson] Obediah Wood, which part of the county was he in?
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[Clifford] owoodson, did you get some information from ruby griffin on his - family?
[nkayeal] not really sure
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[nkayeal] probably close to the Lowndes county line
[owoodson] I talked with Ruby, but mostly researched the records in Monroe - and Wilcox.
[clc] Ouida, Any infomation on any Crockers in Wilcox County as my - gggrandfather was in Wilcox County in1850 and his son ther through 1916
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[owoodson] I don't remember any Crockers right off the top of my head.
[clc] Ouida, thanks
[wade] Type HEREhello list
[Ethelsue] Type HERE Evening. I have a question about an ancestor from - Wilcox county. Her name was Annie Eliza Rice Morgan, married to Samuel - Morgan. Does anyone know anything about her parents? She was born 1849 - Wilcox Co. Raised by a Criswell family..
[nkayeal] hello Wade
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[clc] Ouida, Any ifo on Josiah Robins??
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[nkayeal] waf.. did you find alot for Lowndes, & Wilcox county through you - rnew CD'S?
[owoodson] Yes, I do have some on Josiah Robbins.
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[clc] Ouida, Is the info in one of your books?? (Men in Gray?)
[wade] Hello BJ, is there no one to ask about Dallas County?
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[BooMack] TyGoodevening everyone!
BJS> Hi Wade, this is really a Wilcox County chat but ask anyway. Someone may - know.
[Clifford] wade who are you researching?
[owoodson] He is in there as the organizer of the Wilcox Rangers and as Col.
[clc] Ouida, thanks will be getting with you later!
[wade] I don't mean to intrude, but I haven't caught anyone on the Dallas - county. I'm looking for info on Ellisor's in Dallas County 1832- 1850, - Orrivlle area.
[clc] Wade, go ahead and ask about Dallas County as most from Wilcox came on - down to Wilcox County anyway
[Clifford] Ethelsue, who are you researching?
[Ethelsue] Annie Eliza Rice.
[Ethelsue] Samuel Andrew Morgan family. Also looking for any info on Condi - Dewitt Martin
[clc] What years??
[owoodson] I know there was a Rice family in Wilcox early on, but I am not - familiar with Annie Eliza. The Criswells were also here fairly early.
[Ethelsue] Annie Eliza Rice b.1849 in Wilcox Co. as far as I know. Married - Samuel Morgan 1866.
[owoodson] Right (Wright) Rice was the name of one of the men in the Rice - family
[Ethelsue] can't seem to find them in census. Any suggestions?
[Ethelsue] Condie Dewitt Martin probably born 1880--1900.
[clc] How about the 1870 Census?
[Ethelsue] Haven't had access to it as yet. Is it online anywhere?
[owoodson] In 1860 William A. Criswell was a voter in Bethel Beat, which was - in the Pine Hill area.
[Ethelsue] I need to know who her parents are. She was married before 1870.
[clc] No, not that I'm aware of except for people like BJ who has taken her - precious time to also expand into 1870
[Ethelsue] Pine hill area is perfect.
[clc] There are some Criswell's buried in the Independance cemetery as - listed on the Wilcox County site
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[Clifford] ethelsue, is the morgan line from wilcox Co., Alabama & did they - move to texas?
[Ethelsue] anything about Condi Dewitt Martin ring any bells.
[Ethelsue] Morgans were from Wilcox county, but they stayed in Wilcox - County. He and she died there and are buried in Kelly Cemetery.
[clc] Kelly cemetery is in Clarke County??
[owoodson] Have you found anything on the 1850 census?
[Ethelsue] I have looked, but have not found anything as of yet.
[Clifford] I believe that I know about them. See I am also doing MOrgan - researching in Wilcox Co., Alabama which tie into my Jones from Butler Co., - Alabama
[clc] Ethelsue--You have looked in Kelly Cemetery??
[Ethelsue] Samuel Andrew Morgan was son of William Morgan and Susan Morgan
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[owoodson] BJ did you get my email. My phone line is still hanging on.
BJS> no I was dropped just got back onj
[owoodson] I sent you an email this afternoon to let you know that I have - ahd phone line troubles all day. The regular line is still out.
BJS> Has ythe problem been fixed?
BJS> Glad you made it though.
[clc] Ethelsue, Don't show a listing but will ask my mom about Condie - Dewitt martin as she knew quite a few Martins--need your e-mail address to - let you know
[owoodson] Not completely. I am afraid the computer line will go dead at any - given moment. so it hasn;t tonight.
[Ethelsue] email address is Ethelsue1@aol.com
[owoodson] so far tonight it hasn't.
BJS> Quite a full house tonight. What have I missed in the past 20 minutes?
[clc] Ethelsue will let you know something in the next few days--Jim
[owoodson] Did have a full house for a while. Ethelsue and clc have been - discussing her Rice and Martin family
[Ethelsue] thanks. Looking forward to hearing from you
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[clc] BJ and Ouida--It has been a pleasure tonight--hte I've missed earlier - sessions as I know they have been very informative to everyone. Iguess I - might as well say good night to all--Ethelsue, Ouida and BJ
[owoodson] Hello lee
[Lee] Hello
BJS> nite clc
[owoodson] Goodnight clc
[clc] oops, we have a lst one on
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[owoodson] Lee what families are you researching?
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[Lee] CRAIN-JONES-STROUD-CHESTNUT- ETC
[Lee] HARVEY CRAIN WAS BORN IN WILCOX CO
[Lee] But haven't found him in any census yet
[owoodson] What time frame
[BooMack] Is Cliff in the chat room?
[owoodson] He has left us for the night.
[Lee] His parents were William abt 1813 GA and Francis Grimes TN
[Lee] Sound familiar?
[BooMack] I am loosing my connection. Is anyone else having a problem - staying connected?
[Lee] Any Chance lines out there?
[owoodson] Not really. Some one on here earlier has a Chance line.
[Lee] What other surnames are out there?
[Lee] Do you remember which one?
[owoodson] Not right now. I didn't write it down.
[Lee] CHESTNUTS anyone
[Lee] Im told my FLORIDA CHANCE was NA
[owoodson] The Chance family was in Lowndes Co near Farmersville on the line - between Wilcox and Lowndes. Nathan Chance was the ancestor .
[Lee] What other surnames are out there?
[owoodson] There are Jones, Morgans, Martins, Jenkins, Ratcliffes, Evans, - Scotts--these are the ones I remember mentioned tonight along with others I - don't remember all.
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[Lee] Jones? from?
[Lee] My are from Pike Co
[owoodson] The Jones family is that of Bethel JOnes related to the Jenkins - family.
[owoodson] They were in Wilcox and Monroe
[Lee] My Arthur Chance is first found in Santa Rosa Co. FL 1850 census
[Lee] My Jones line is from Joseph, sone Seaborn, his son William.
[Lee] BooMack are you still there? What are your surnames?
[Lee] Guess I came in late. Hope to make it earlier next time good by
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BJS> Boo Ouida afre you having trouble?
BJS> My line is very slow and I keep getting dropped.
[owoodson] No, I am all right. Just got my fingers crossed up and couldn't - type.
BJS> Hahahaha.
BJS> We lost you early last week Boo. You have Ouida all to yourself now.
[owoodson] Reckon its time to call it a night.
BJS> Guess so
BJS> Boo?
[owoodson] Boo must be having trouble
BJS> Well, Ouida guess I'll close the log
BJS> Night now.
[owoodson] All right--see you next week.
[owoodson] Night
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BJS> NIte BooMack, wherever you are
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